Comments on: Whose side are we on anyway? http://www.regularjen.com/archives/2005/01/10/whose-side-are-we-on-anyway/ sharing too much since 2003 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:01:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: jEN http://www.regularjen.com/archives/2005/01/10/whose-side-are-we-on-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-627 jEN Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:44:25 +0000 http://www.regularjen.com/archives/2005/01/10/whose-side-are-we-on-anyway/#comment-627 Yowsa! Good points Matt! The drug dogs on suburban streets is a little scary. Seems a tad too Big Brother... I agree that when dependent on a welfare system, the recipient likely becomes less valuable to society. Oh sure, welfare helps keep them from being homeless, but I just saw a program where disadvantaged people on a poverty level commute by private system buses, sometimes an hour or more, to make minimum wage at a dead-end job, then bus back and work another job to get close to making ends meet. It's sick the way the government herds these people around like cattle so that their city streets have fewer cardboard and blanket houses... Thanks for dropping by and weighing in! smooches~ jEN Yowsa! Good points Matt!
The drug dogs on suburban streets is a little scary. Seems a tad too Big Brother…

I agree that when dependent on a welfare system, the recipient likely becomes less valuable to society. Oh sure, welfare helps keep them from being homeless, but I just saw a program where disadvantaged people on a poverty level commute by private system buses, sometimes an hour or more, to make minimum wage at a dead-end job, then bus back and work another job to get close to making ends meet. It’s sick the way the government herds these people around like cattle so that their city streets have fewer cardboard and blanket houses…

Thanks for dropping by and weighing in!
smooches~
jEN

]]> By: Matt http://www.regularjen.com/archives/2005/01/10/whose-side-are-we-on-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-624 Matt Tue, 11 Jan 2005 16:15:50 +0000 http://www.regularjen.com/archives/2005/01/10/whose-side-are-we-on-anyway/#comment-624 Hey Jen, well this is the way in the western world, stigmatise those on welfare, reduce public spending on education and health, then when the poverty-stricken unemployed eventually turn to crime in desperation they can go to jail and make stuff (like packaging software) cheaper than a "free" employee. With the "rising" crime rate (though statistically crime is constantly falling) the government has plenty of excuses to being in new "security" laws - control for control's sake. Where I live there are drug sniffer dogs walking the suburban streets with undercover police. Funny that they're not in the wealthy parts of the city. Everyone worries about social tension, hell nothing reduces tension like knowing that if you lose your job you're not going to starve, if you get sick you're not going to die on the footpath, and if you're obsolete skillwise you can get into education. Here in .au it's been revealed that the conservative government's "work for the dole" scheme actually reduces an unemployed person's chance of getting into work... http://www.theage.com.au/news/Opinion/How-not-to-get-people-into-jobs/2005/01/10/1105206046029.html Whoops, I started ranting :) Cheers Matt Hey Jen,

well this is the way in the western world, stigmatise those on welfare, reduce public spending on education and health, then when the poverty-stricken unemployed eventually turn to crime in desperation they can go to jail and make stuff (like packaging software) cheaper than a “free” employee. With the “rising” crime rate (though statistically crime is constantly falling) the government has plenty of excuses to being in new “security” laws – control for control’s sake. Where I live there are drug sniffer dogs walking the suburban streets with undercover police. Funny that they’re not in the wealthy parts of the city.

Everyone worries about social tension, hell nothing reduces tension like knowing that if you lose your job you’re not going to starve, if you get sick you’re not going to die on the footpath, and if you’re obsolete skillwise you can get into education.

Here in .au it’s been revealed that the conservative government’s “work for the dole” scheme actually reduces an unemployed person’s chance of getting into work…

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Opinion/How-not-to-get-people-into-jobs/2005/01/10/1105206046029.html

Whoops, I started ranting :)

Cheers
Matt

]]> By: jEN http://www.regularjen.com/archives/2005/01/10/whose-side-are-we-on-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-619 jEN Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:45:19 +0000 http://www.regularjen.com/archives/2005/01/10/whose-side-are-we-on-anyway/#comment-619 Yeah... there's so much that this simple and disgusting article stirs up. A people should be able to count on it's own government for safety within it's own borders and believe that the best interests of it's people is at heart. It's a tough call to decide which could be more dangerous in lawmaking: morality or business sense. I'm not saying we should all live in a hippie commune, but it sure would be lovely if people could count on each other as well as it's leaders to keep a person safe, fed and educated. Do I ask for too much? smooches~ jEN Yeah… there’s so much that this simple and disgusting article stirs up. A people should be able to count on it’s own government for safety within it’s own borders and believe that the best interests of it’s people is at heart. It’s a tough call to decide which could be more dangerous in lawmaking: morality or business sense.

I’m not saying we should all live in a hippie commune, but it sure would be lovely if people could count on each other as well as it’s leaders to keep a person safe, fed and educated.
Do I ask for too much?

smooches~
jEN

]]> By: Kev http://www.regularjen.com/archives/2005/01/10/whose-side-are-we-on-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-618 Kev Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:59:24 +0000 http://www.regularjen.com/archives/2005/01/10/whose-side-are-we-on-anyway/#comment-618 Oh you blogged this one before I got the chance I read it this morning. It is disgusting that budgetary considerations of a governing body should interfere in anyway with what is a matter of personal safety. It also has to be recognised that a welfare system is not just there for the aid of the individual on benefit but there for the protection of the society as a whole. Kev Oh you blogged this one before I got the chance I read it this morning.

It is disgusting that budgetary considerations of a governing body should interfere in anyway with what is a matter of personal safety.

It also has to be recognised that a welfare system is not just there for the aid of the individual on benefit but there for the protection of the society as a whole.

Kev

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